Arduino co-founder Massimo Banzi and I met up early in the morning at the Las Vegas Convention Center coffee shop, firing up the camera to do our own rendition of the enjoyable Seinfeld “Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee” series. In it we talk about the surprise of finding ourselves at the world’s largest consumer trade show, how many fitness trackers are being peddled at the event, discuss how Kickstarter has transformed hardware, and laugh about all the people cutting in front of us.

Does his presence at CES mean making has gone mainstream? Watch and decide.