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Arduino Wars: Genuino vs the Phantom Arduino and the Clones

Arduino Wars:  Genuino vs the Phantom Arduino and the Clones

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The biggest news coming out of Maker Faire Shenzhen, outside the size and intensity of the event itself, was the announcement made by Massimo Banzi that Arduino boards using the name Genuino will be made in China by Seeed Studio. There have been plenty of Arduino clones made in China that closely copied every detail of Arduino, including stamping “Made in Italy” on the board.

Now, Eric Pan’s Seeed Studio will be manufacturing boards in Shenzhen for distribution in China. This follows Banzi’s announcement at Maker Faire Bay Area that Genuino boards in the United States will be made by Adafruit in Manhattan, New York. Previously, genuine Arduino boards were made at manufacturing facilities in northern Italy.

I interviewed Massimo Banzi and Eric Pan immediately after Massimo’s talk on Saturday at Maker Faire Shenzhen. Banzi in his talk emphasized the importance of new efforts to expand support on for a Chinese community as well as developing educational materials for the China market.

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Arduino Wars

The news from Shenzhen is another episode in what might be called the Arduino Wars. It is both confusing and upsetting to see the original Arduino community calling itself Genuino (which means genuine in Italian) in order to outmaneuver the Phantom Arduino and its appropriation of the original name.

Genuino represents the efforts of four of the five original Arduino team to salvage their life’s work, and continue to grow the open source community that has flourished around Arduino and its home at The Phantom Arduino is the result of one of the members of the original team, who was responsible for the manufacturing of Arduino in Italy, forming his own company,, and then selling his interest in it to Frederico Musto. It is a blatant attempt to commercialize Arduino without respect to its founders or the community. There are now competing claims over who owns the Arduino trademark and its trade dress in European, American, and Asian markets.

At Shenzhen Maker Faire, Banzi said that he would not use the name Arduino in China as the legal process plays out. This does not mean that he’s abandoning the Arduino name or the fight over it. It means that there are legal restrictions in place that they are following in hopes that they can win a legal battle and retain these rights in the long run.

At Maker Faire Shenzhen, there was a Genuino exhibit and separately, an Arduino exhibit. It’s a battle of .cc versus .org. Banzi and his team certainly have the support of the Maker community and the companies who have become part of the Arduino ecosystem. There’s a huge difference in vision, which may not come across to newcomers in the Maker community. It’s hard to tell who the Phantom Arduino really is — the “about” page on the site has the ingratiating opening: “We were there from the beginning.” Musto has written me asking to tell his side of the story and I have asked him for it but he doesn’t provide anything. The Phantom Arduino might not seem like a menace, but it’s all part of a strategy to mask who they really are — and try to hide what they are not — the genuine article.

Banzi was joined in Shenzhen by another one of the original team, Tom Igoe. They continue to engage openly with the community, and keep moving the open source hardware project forward. Michael Shiloh and Judy Castro, who have worked closely as educators with the Arduino team, were doing workshops at Maker Faire Shenzhen. Shiloh told me that they would stay in China after Maker Faire to do workshops in Beijing and Shanghai, which is typical of the successful work supported by the original Arduino team.

All that we really know for sure is that there will be more episodes to come in the Arduino Wars.

19 thoughts on “Arduino Wars: Genuino vs the Phantom Arduino and the Clones

  1. Andy III says:

    Another sad sad chapter in this saga. I hope “” goes belly up faster than New Coke.

    The sad part is that to the layman, ‘.org’ holds a lot of legitimacy compared to ‘.cc’. It’s going to take a lot of education and getting the word out.

    We need a good mnemonic device to help people remember this.
    “ORG is not the OG”? Hmm, that’s weak.

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    2. pcf11x says:

      I cannot blame the Italian manufacturer. The other 4 wanted to cut him out, and make the boards in China.

      1. Al Billings says:

        So he had a right to steal the arduino name as a result? What a load of shit.

        1. pcf11x says:

          That is a matter for the courts to decide. He certainly had a right to try to defend himself.

          1. Al Billings says:

            He wasn’t attacked. He had a deal with Arduino, which he also was on the board of. He then attempted to fuck them over and steal the Arduino trademark. Please, spin that as him somehow defending himself. I’m waiting.

          2. pcf11x says:

            I’m sure the Italian manufacturer was heavily invested in Arduino production when the decision to undermine his position came about. It was decided so the other members could line their pockets too, so all’s fair.

          3. Al Billings says:

            So you support him stealing the trademark? I get it. How much does he pay you to shill for him on the net?

          4. pcf11x says:

            I should contact him to see what I can make. How much do you think I should ask? I thought I heard he just sold the trademark anyways to a litigious copyright holding company?

          5. Al Billings says:

            Oh, and it isn’t just about China. He insisted that he and only he could make boards. That’s just lining his own products by using his position in Arduino. Now that this is being fought in the open, Adafruit is going to be making boards now. So it isn’t simply that Real Arduino wanted to make boards in China. They just wanted to be able to make boards with folks other than just him. He’s illegally and immorally trying to keep a monopoly that was never supposed to be the deal and doing shady tricks to do so.

    3. Robert Roeder says:

      This story is slightly slanted toward Massimo . I have met all five of the founders, Gianluca Martino over this weekend. He joked that he was suing himself, still owing 20% of I have worked with the people of the, and they are good people. This is more than just trademark issue.

      1. Robert Roeder says:

        Correction it was Federico Musto i met over the weekend not Gianluca Martino, and i have met four not five of the founders.

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  5. Ewan says:

    “Genuino boards in the United States will be made by Adafruit”

    I believe they’re still going to call them ‘Arduino’ in the US, the Genuino name is for the other regions.

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DALE DOUGHERTY is the leading advocate of the Maker Movement. He founded Make: Magazine 2005, which first used the term “makers” to describe people who enjoyed “hands-on” work and play. He started Maker Faire in the San Francisco Bay Area in 2006, and this event has spread to nearly 200 locations in 40 countries, with over 1.5M attendees annually. He is President of Make:Community, which produces Make: and Maker Faire.

In 2011 Dougherty was honored at the White House as a “Champion of Change” through an initiative that honors Americans who are “doing extraordinary things in their communities to out-innovate, out-educate and out-build the rest of the world.” At the 2014 White House Maker Faire he was introduced by President Obama as an American innovator making significant contributions to the fields of education and business. He believes that the Maker Movement has the potential to transform the educational experience of students and introduce them to the practice of innovation through play and tinkering.

Dougherty is the author of “Free to Make: How the Maker Movement Is Changing our Jobs, Schools and Minds” with Adriane Conrad. He is co-author of "Maker City: A Practical Guide for Reinventing American Cities" with Peter Hirshberg and Marcia Kadanoff.

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